Daftar Argumen-Argumen Kreasionis

Source: http://wiki.cotch.net/index.php/List_of_creationist_arguments

The original list of Creationist arguments was compiled by Talk.Origins regular, Mark Isaak, and answers to many of the claims can already be found on the newsgroup, and on Mark's page at http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/index.html

See also: List of controversies, List of creationism topics, :Category:Creationist claims

Filosofi dan Teologi

Etika

Epistemology

Foundation of Knowledge

Theory of Science

Pedagogy

Scientific Method

Teologi

Biologi

Abiogenesis

*Richard Dickerson had no explanation for generation of macromolecules
*Generation of macromolecules is one of the hardest problems evolutionists have to fight
*Mathematicians regard events with probabilities smaller than x as impossible
*Membranes are too complex to have existed during abiogenesis
*Dawkins said aliens created life on earth

Genetika

:* The chances of related mutations occurring are too low

Biologi Molekuler

Physiology and Anatomy

*What use is half an eye?
* The ear is too complex to have evolved
* The brain is too complex to have evolved
* The bombardier beetle is too complex to have evolved
* Bombardier beetle chemicals would explode if mixed without an inhibitor
* Butterfly metamorphosis is too complex to have evolved
* Evolution can't explain butterfly evolving from caterpillar
* The giraffe neck couldn't evolve without a special circulatory system
* The woodpecker tongue couldn't have evolved
* Organs and organ systems would be useless until all parts are in place
* Snake venom and hollow fangs couldn't have evolved simultaneously

Perilaku dan Kognisi

Botani

Ecology and Population Biology

Biologi perkembangan

Sistematika

Evolusi

Paleontologi

Antropologi Fisik

Questionable fossils

All hominid fossils are fully human or fully ape

Human fossils are out of place

*Human footprints have been found with dinosaur tracks at Paluxy
*Sandal footprints have been found associated with trilobites
*Moab man was found in Cretaceous sandstone
*Malachite man was found in Cretaceous sandstone
*Castenedolo, Olmo, and Calaveras skulls were found in Pliocene strata
*Baugh found a fossilized finger from the Cretaceous
*A petrified hammer was found in Cretaceous rocks
*Richard Leakey found a normal human skull under a layer of rock dated at 212 million years
*A 40,000 year-old skeleton found in China has raised questions about the "out of Africa" hypothesis on how early modern humans populated the planet.

Antropologi Lainnya

*Kalau kita keturunan kera, kenapa masih ada kera?
*One suggested ancestry line for humans is: Lucy, Heidelberg Man, Nebraska Man, Piltdown Man, Peking Man, Neanderthal Man, New Guinea Man, Cro-Magnon Man, Modern Man
*New Guinea Man dates way back to 1970 and has been found in the region just north to Australia

Fosil Transisi

*The transition of Human skulls are sculptured creations which have been debunked
*Tidak ada fosil transisi
There should be billions of transitional fossils
There should be transitionals among living creatures
*We should see a smooth continuum through the fossil record
Punctuated equilibrium was ad hoc to justify gaps
Punctuated equilibrium is the opposite of standard evolutionary theory
*[[ggg|[Fossil record doesn't show transition from simple organisms to complex ones since bacteria are already complex]]]
*Evolution requires progress through many nonfunctional intermediates
*Fossil record doesn't show progress
*Some species don't seem to evolve for millions of years
*Speciation hasn't been observed in the fossil record
*Specific examples of non-transition
There are gaps between invertebrate-vertebrate
There are gaps between fish-amphibian
There are gaps between amphibian-reptile
There are no fossil ancestors of dinosaurs
There are gaps between reptile-bird
*Archaeopteryx was probably not an ancestor of modern birds
**Archaeopteryx is fully bird
*Protoavis disproves avian phylogenetics
There are gaps between reptile-mammal
*There is no fossil evidence for transition from reptile maxilla to mammal ear bones
There are gaps between land mammals and whales
Horse fossils don't show evolution
There are no fossil giraffes with shorter necks
There are no fossil ancestors of monkeys
Arthropods arose suddenly
There are no fossil ancestors of insects
There are no fossil ancestors of plants
There are gaps between plant-animal
**Anteater evolution is uncertain

Catatan Fosil

*Ledakan Kambria menunjukkan semua mahluk hidup muncul mendadak
Cambrian explosion contradicts evolutionary tree pattern
*Dating of fossils
Fossils are dated from strata; strata are dated from fossils
*The fossil record shows sudden appearance followed by stasis
*Polystrate fossils
Polystrate fossils indicate massive sudden deposition
*Yellowstone's Specimen Creek fossil forests were evidently transported
**Specimen Creek fossil trees grew at the same time
Orientations show Specimen Creek fossil trees were transported
*A fossil whale was found vertically through several strata
*Some fossils are out of place
Recent pollen has been found in old rocks
*Some fossils are faked
Archaeopteryx is a fake
Archaeoraptor was a fake
*Taphonomy
No new fossils are being formed
Fossils can form quickly
*Coal and oil can form quickly
*Mammoths have been found quickly frozen
*Contorted positions of fossil animals indicate rapid burial
Large collections of fossils indicate catastrophism
Fossilization requires sudden burial
Sea fossils have been found on mountaintops
Footprints in Coconino sandstone appear to have been made underwater
***Coconino sandstone was deposited underwater
*The fossil record does not show evidence of reproduction

Methodology

*Paleontolog merekonstruksi manusia purba dari satu tulang saja

Geology

Geochronology

*Radiometric dating makes false assumptions
Radiometric dating falsely assumes rocks are closed systems
Radiometric dating falsely assumes initial conditions are known
Radiometric dating falsely assumes no isotopes added or removed
Cosmic rays and free neutrinos affect U and Ar decay rates
*Radiometric dating gives unreliable results
Carbon dating gives inaccurate results
*Variable C14/C12 ratio invalidates C14 dating
*Vollosovitch and Dima mammoths yielded inconsistent C14 dates
*Living snails were C14 dated at 2,300 and 27,000 years old
*A freshly killed seal was C14 dated at 1300 years old
*Triassic wood from Australia was dated at 33K years old
*Ancient oil is C14 dated as only 50,000 years old
U-Th dating gives inaccurate results for modern volcanic rocks
K-Ar dating gives inaccurate results for modern volcanic rocks
*K-Ar dates of 1986 dacite from Mount St. Helens are very old
Isochron dating gives unreliable results
*Isochron date of young Grand Canyon lava is excessively old
**Zircons retain too much helium for an old earth
*Consistency of radiometric dating comes from selective reporting
*The ages of fossils are arrived at by guessing
*Biologists think that Carbon 14 proves evolution

Geological Column

*Entire geological column doesn't exist
*Geological column is sometimes out of order
**Out-of-order strata occur at the Lewis overthrust
*Geologic column is based on the assumption of evolution
*Meteor craters are never found in deeper strata
*Meteorites are never found in deeper strata

Sedimentation

*Uniformitarian assumption is untenable
*Sandstone & shale layers are too extensive for normal deposition
*Limestone & dolomite layers are too extensive for normal deposition
*Mouth of Colorado river doesn't have enough sediments for Grand Canyon
*Mississippi delta could have formed in 5000 years
*Not enough sediments in the ocean for an old earth
**Much more sediment is deposited than removed by subduction
*Oceans haven't enough dissolved minerals for an old earth
*Juvenile water is added to oceans too fast for an old earth
*Natural gas escapes too fast to allow for long ages
*High pressures in oil fields would have bled off if earth were old
*Oil seepage would have drained offshore reservoirs in 20,000 years
*Experiments show that strata can violate principles of superposition
*Varves can form in less than a year
*Stalactites can grow very rapidly

Evaporation

*Evaporites could form without evaporation
*Evaporites are too thick
*Evaporites contain no organic matter

Glaciation

*WWII airplanes are now beneath thousands of annual ice layers

Mountain Building

*On an old earth, mountains would have eroded by now
*Volcanic mountains are built too fast for an old earth
*Folded rocks must have been soft when folded

Erosion

*Erosion rate of Niagara Falls' rim indicates young earth
*Average soil depth is consistent with young earth

Geophysics & Plate tectonics

*Earth's magnetic field is decaying, indicating a young earth
**Cowling's theorem disproves dynamo theory of earth's magnetic field

Climate Change

*Sahara Desert is expanding

Astronomi

Bumi

*Tidak cukup helium di atmosfer untuk bumi yang tua
*Ilmuan NASA menemukan atu hari yang hilang
*Rotasi bumi melambat, menunjukkan bumi yang muda
**Frekuensi detik yang bertindih mmenunjukkan bumi yang muda
*Sebuah bumi tua akan ditutupi oleh 182' debu meteorit

Bulan

*Tidak cukup debu bulan untuk alam semesta tua
*Bulan mendekat terlalu cepat untuk alam semesta tua
*Gempa bulan, aliran lava, dan emisi gas menunjukkan mudanya bulan

Planet & Tata Surya

*[Suhu dan atmosfer Venus mesti mengikis tampilan permukaannya
*Aktivitas vulkanis besar Io menunjukkan usia muda
*Yupiter dan saturnus mendingin terlalu cepat kalau ia tua
*Cincin Saturnus tidak stabil
*3 planet dan beberapa bulan berputar mundur
*Gerakan retrograde planet menyangkal Big Bang
*Komet tidak akan ada di alam semesta tua
*Awan Oort dan sabuk Kuiper adalah fantasi ad hoc astronom
*Angin matahari membersihkan tata surya dari partikel
*Efek Poynting-Robertson menghilangkan debu tata surya tua

Matahari & Bintang

*Tidak ada neutrino matahari menunjukkan model bintang muda
*Momentum sudut matahari kecil
*Pengerutan matahari menunjukkan matahari muda
*Teori kontraksi Helmholtz mengatakan matahari muda
*Paradoks matahari muda kontradiksi dengan bumi tua
*Sirius bintang merah 2000 tahun lalu
*Galaksi mesti kehilangan bentuk spiralnya dalam jutaan tahun

Cosmology

*There are too few supernova remnants for an old universe
*Physical constants are only assumed constant
Speed of light has changed
*Physicists found that the speed of light was once faster
**Gravitational time dilation made distant clocks run faster
*Cosmos has an axis, contrary to Big Bang models
*Red shift comes from light aging, not expansion of the universe
*Where did space, time, energy, and laws of physics come from?
*Explosions such as the Big Bang don't produce order or information
*Big Bang has never been observed

Fisika

Hukum kedua termodinamika dan Teori Informasi

*Evolusi melanggar hukum kedua termodinamika
Hukum kedua termodinamika mengatakan sistem harus lebih kacau seiring waktu
Hukum kedua, dan tren untuk kekacauan, dalah universal
Instruksi perlu untuk menghasilkan keteraturan
Hukum kedua mengenai kerumitan teroganisir, bukan entropi
Evolusi membutuhkan mekanisme perubah energi untuk menggunakan energi
*Kerumitan tidak muncul dari kesederhanaan
Tornado di tempat sampah tidak akan menghasilkan apapun
*Bagaimana informasi, seperti DNA, menyusun dirinya sendiri?
*Hukum kedua termodinamika berlaku pada teori informasi
*Simulasi sibernetik menunjukkan proses Darwinian tidak menghasilkan keteraturan
*Algoritma evolusioner diselundupkan alam desain fungsi kelestarian
**Hasil dari program WEASEL Dawkins ditentukan sebelumnya
*Gluon tidak ada karena tiada pernah melihatnya, jadi pasti tuhan memegang nucleus

Hukum pertama termodinamika

*Alam semesta tidak dapat muncul dari ketiadaan

Peluruhan radioaktif

*Carbon-14 dalam deposit batu bara menunjukkan bumi muda
*Halo polonium menunjukkan bumi yang muda
*Penanggalan radiometrik dengan salah beranggapan tingkatnya konstan
*Isotop berumur pendek Th-230 danU-236 ada di bulan

Miscellaneous Anti-Evolution

History

*Darwin recanted on his death bed
*The oldest living thing is younger than 4900 years
*3000 years is time enough for all languages, religions to develop
*Oldest structures, such as pyramids, are already very complex

Linguistics

*Chinese glyph for ark is literally 8 mouths
*First known languages are highly complex
*Why are languages getting less complex?

Folklore

*There are flood myths from all over the world
*Babylonian creation myth does not resemble Genesis account

Arguments based upon other scientific fields

*Evolutionary theory in computer science has been unsuccessful

Law

*Federal law (Santorum Amendment) supports teaching alternatives
*It has never been against the law to teach the Bible or creation in public schools
*Biologists will want to have you jailed for mentioning Bible or creation in public schools
*Nebraska man was presented as significant evidence in the Scopes trial
*Piltdown man was presented as significant evidence in the Scopes trial

Appeals to fair play

** Evolutionists are intellectual snobs
** Biologists will want to have you jailed for mentioning Bible or creation in public schools
** Fairness demands evolution and creation be given equal time
** Teach the controversy
** Teach the weaknesses

Biblical Creationism

Creationism Generally

*Creationism has explanatory power
*Creationism, being Bible-based, is good
**Learning creationism stimulates mental health, joy, and morals
*Genesis is foundational to the Bible
*Non-creationist Christians are compromisers
*Creation can't be disproved

Biblical Accuracy

*The Bible says it, I believe it, that settles it
*The Bible is inerrant
If part of the Bible is wrong, none of it can be trusted
*The Bible is literal
Genesis must be literal; it is straighforward narrative
Genesis must be literal; later writers refer to it as fact
*Jesus refers to creation and flood as though they were literal
*Bible claims inspiration
*Prophecies prove the accuracy of the Bible
*The Bible must be accurate because archaeology supports it
*Bible's accuracy on other scientific points shows overall accuracy
Bible says the earth is round
Bible says the earth is unsupported
Bible got water cycle right
Records say civilization was man's original state
Bible specifies good medical and hygienic practices
*Bible specifies best time for circumcision
*Moses reveals that blood is the essence of life
*Bible is unique in other ways
Bible is popular
Bible is influential
Bible is target of persecution
**Bible is intellectually honest
*Bible is harmonious throughout

Young Earth Creationism

Age of the Universe

*The universe is 6000-10000 years old
*The earth is 6000-10000 years old
*The universe was created with apparent age
*Humans are a few thousand years old, not millions

Death and the Fall

*There was no death or decay before the Fall
**Animals ate plants before the Fall
*Pre-flood vapor canopy would have made world Edenic
*Pre-flood vapor canopy would have extended human lifetimes

*Life is deteriorating
**Parasites are degenerations of free-living species

Flood

*Source of Flood
Vapor canopy
Flood from comet
Hydroplate theory
Runaway subduction
*The Ark
Noah's Ark has been found
*We can expect to find Noah's Ark on Mt. Ararat
*Noah's Ark may have been photographed on Ararat in 1949
*ERTS satellite photographed Noah's Ark in 1973
*Noah's Ark has been found near Dogubayazit, Turkey
Anchor stones of Noah's Ark have been found
The Turkish government officially recognized the site of Noah's Ark
*James Bryce found a 4-foot timber high on Ararat
*Navarra retrieved hand-hewn wood from high on Ararat
*Hardwicke Knight found soft wood timbers on Ararat
*Yearam guided 3 vile scientists to Noah's Ark in 1916
*An 1883 Turkish expedition found Noah's Ark
*Prince Nouri of Baghdad found the Ark in 1887
*Hagopian visited the Ark with his uncle around 1908
*Russian aviator Roskovitsky photographed the Ark
*Resit, a Kurdish farmer, found the Ark in 1948
Animals on the Ark
*Insects survived on floating vegetation mats
*All kinds could fit
Juveniles of large animals were taken aboard
Average land animal is the size of a sheep
*Animals hibernated on the Ark
*Crew could feed and care for animals
Many animals don't require fresh or live food
*Pre-Flood animals lived in a uniform climate
*Animals' exacting needs could have evolved after the flood
*Effects of the Flood
Aquatic organisms could have survived the Flood
Plants could have survived the Flood
Geologic column was deposited by the Flood
*Seashells on mountains are evidence of a flood
Fossils were deposited by the Flood
*Fossil order was determined by the Flood
Fossils sorted by ecological zonation
Fossils sorted hydrologically
Fossils sorted by ability to escape
Fossils sorted by a combination of these factors
High mountains were raised during the Flood
The Flood shaped the earth's surface in other ways
Grand Canyon was carved by retreating Flood waters
*Rapid erosion on Mt. St. Helens shows Grand Canyon could form suddenly
The Flood caused an ice age

Dinosaurs

*Man and dinosaurs coexisted
Ica stones show humans and dinosaurs coexisted
Dinosaur figurines from Acambaro show human/dino association
Behemoth, from the book of Job, was a dinosaur
*Leviathan, from the book of Job, was a dinosaur
Dragons were dinosaurs
*Some dinosaurs breathed fire

Day-Age Creationism

*Genesis 1 got the order of events right

Geocentrism

*Bible says the sun goes around the earth
*Relativity shows geocentrism is true

Desain Cerdas

ID as Science

*Intelligent design theory is scientific
Intelligent design theory is not religious
Intelligent design is not creationism
Intelligent design is mainstream
*Intelligent design has passed scientific peer-review
*Intelligent design has explanatory power
Intelligent design forms the kernel of many other sciences
*Evidence for design disproves evolutionary mechanisms
*There is a law of conservation of information

Mendeteksi Desain

*Design is detectable
*Kerumitan menunjukkan desain
*Kerumitan yang tak teruraikan menunjukkan desain
*Complex specified information indicates design
*Dembski's filter can detect design
Specified information criterion produces no false positives
*Genetic algorithms require a designer to specify desired outcome
*Purpose indicates design
*Functional integration indicates design
*Similarities in DNA and anatomy are due to common design
Similar structures for similar functions, different for different
**Convergent Evolution is proof for reuse of the same template
*SETI researchers expect they can detect design

First Cause

*There must have been a first cause

Anthropic Principle

*Cosmos is fine-tuned to permit human life
*Cosmos is fine-tuned to permit scientific discovery

Meta-arguments

*Evolutionists have blinded themselves to seeing design
*Design requires a designer

Other Creationism

Vedic Creationism

*Mankind has existed essentially unchanged for billions of years

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